Balance Thread

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by Ferox, Nov 9, 2016.


What you consider to be generally the strongest nation right now?

  1. Algeria / Turkey

  2. Austria

  3. England

  4. France

  5. Poland

  6. Prussia

  7. Russia

  8. Spain / Vencie

  9. Sweden

  10. Ukraine

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  1. [PR]Ernest

    [PR]Ernest Moderator Staff Member

    I don't think so. Training archer was very long process, also janissaries were elite formation. I think that both should be just stronger.
  2. Fulcrum

    Fulcrum Active Member

    Ottoman and ALgerian troops already recruit fast enough. The creation speed makes them tough adversaries as game is dictated not by quallity but quantity and most notably the amount of drones that can attack the enemy. The more drones you have, the lower the importance of troop quality and numbers count in more and more. That said, I think Algeria and Ottoman Empire are fine.
  3. Aistis1990

    Aistis1990 Active Member

    I wonder how would fare 18c nation with unique 18c pikeman if they have like 6 bulletproof. Add academy and blacksmith upgrade... ofc ppl use them like crazy :)
  4. Hansol333

    Hansol333 Active Member

    I made a small mod where I gave Swedish 18c pike some small not upgradable armour to make them more different from normally 18c pike. worked quite well.
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  5. Kamilow

    Kamilow Well-Known Member

    My suggestions to change the statistics of some units:

    Vytyaz - 360 hp attack 11
    Saxon Cavalryman - 310 hp attack 15
    Heavy Sipahi - 330 hp, attack 12
    Winged Hussar - 265 hp attack 15 (max 31), melee protection 3 (now only 2)
    Polish light raider - 200 hp attack 10
    Prussian Hussar - 220 hp attack 10
    Turkish ligh infantryman - hp 70 attack 8
    Tatar - 200 hp, shot attack 45, decreased recruit time
    French 18c. Dragoon - 240 hp, shot attack 14
    Polish Muskeeter - 80 hp, shot attack 10
    Polish Pikeman - 100 hp (now 90), attack 8
    Portuguese Jaeger - 70 hp, shot attack 11
    Chasseur - 105 hp, shot attack 15
    Jannisary - 75 hp, shot atack 12, decreased recruit time
    Algerian Archer, Turkish Archer - decreased recruit time
    Last edited: May 29, 2017
  6. Aistis1990

    Aistis1990 Active Member

    My suggestion add saxon 18c musketeer 3 shooting power and 50 range.
    Winged hussar 270 hp and attack 31.
    Roundshiers (austria) bulletproof 8. Attack +4 .
    French 18c dragoons 10 shooting power.
    17c dragoons increase rate of fire.
  7. Foeurdr

    Foeurdr Moderator Staff Member

    that would be a shorter range than pike melee attack !! you must have made an error.
  8. [PR]Ernest

    [PR]Ernest Moderator Staff Member

    Sorry Kamilow, but most of your propositions are not important.
  9. Aistis1990

    Aistis1990 Active Member

    +50 range :-D sry.
  10. Kamilow

    Kamilow Well-Known Member

    I think that details like his build the game climate. Besides, I think that my proposal is good but ofcourse not most important for now. Developers have many other things to do.
  11. Aistis1990

    Aistis1990 Active Member

    Yep. Your propositions rly not that important :-D . Even though few I think are alright. Some creates didbalance. For example french 18c dragoons . They already awesome unit! Why they need much more fire power then? And they produces fast. Like bunnies :-D
  12. Burak Damgacı

    Burak Damgacı Well-Known Member

    All firepower units must be rebalanced now. Ukraine, Bavaria, Saxony,Prussia still stronger than other states and If someone who plays Ukraine, Bavaria, Saxony or Prussia. He can win easily. My proposition is these countries firepower units- 17th 18th musketeer etc- must be equaliazed other states units. If you don't these Your balancing game project is collapsed easily by these states firepower.
    Last edited: May 31, 2017
  13. Aistis1990

    Aistis1990 Active Member

    Sax and pruss now can be beaten with ease. With common european nation. Ukraine not :)
  14. Burak Damgacı

    Burak Damgacı Well-Known Member

    I can not manage to do this Aistis . Do you have speacial tactics? Saxon,Bavaria, also Denmark and Prussian army in 18th century they are undefeated. If I don't chose same feature state against them. Maybe you are right in 17 th century. Ukraine is another problem. Serdiuk is well-balanced soldier:))
    Last edited: Jun 2, 2017
  15. Aistis1990

    Aistis1990 Active Member

    Well i usually train tons of musketeers swarm of completely upgraded pikemen and build dragoons 18c in formations. Before updates when pruss had musketeers creation speed high and 106 misket power it was alnost umbeatable. Now other countries have chances. Espec austria and france :) .sax is my fav nation here even though skins of new units sucks :)
  16. Burak Damgacı

    Burak Damgacı Well-Known Member

    Thanks for answer Aistis. I'll try your suggestions. I don't understand one thing; pikemen 17th century or 18th century pikemen? Same thing for musketeers tons of 17th century musketeers or tons of 18th musketeers. At the beginning in 5000 resource game I try to produce tons of 17th century musketeer and pikemen. Later in the game or millions game you're right 18th musketeer and also pikemen are very effective. Dragoons too. What do you think about against Saxony or Danemark, do you use same tactics for these nations?
  17. Aistis1990

    Aistis1990 Active Member

    Yeah i meant 18c. Muskets and pikes. In c1 you could yave won vs pruss when you can't against denmark. Since some ppl used stand ground formation and 106 power couldnt 1 hit kill unit. And usually cavalry was the main factor to win. Here and now... 17c pruss or den is same like most countries. Some has cheaper and better upgrades for pikes. But once in 18c ... it gets rly hot. I think vs denmark and pruss units would be chasseurs cause of their range. The best way to use them is to get them to attack from flanks , not fron tal atta k. Thanks to their range and slower reload speed they will endure longer and will make main force more surounded. It workes for me like a charm. But usually we talk nation vs nation , but we forget players. If player is good most of tactics wont help out :) . But anyways... whos that good in c3 and always plays just to win? :-D with top nations? .

    In shorter pt games like 20 , 30 pt you can crush prussia or denmark like a bug with poland for example. Just make zerg of light riders and go to their muskets. In that time they wont either produce many of them , not will have all upgrades done :) . But well if u will ignore that. Even 200 muskets means a lot! :)
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  18. Burak Damgacı

    Burak Damgacı Well-Known Member

    Thanks for explanations Aistis:))
  19. Vladeks87

    Vladeks87 New Member

  20. Kamilow

    Kamilow Well-Known Member

    + Some new units for Venice and England
    + Better Polish Light Rider - 210 hp attack 10
    + Better Turkish Light Infantryman - 70 hp attack 9 ( mercanery version 85 hp attack 14)
    Last edited: Jul 6, 2017
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